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by peregrinator
Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:54 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Y'All Be Wary
Replies: 16
Views: 888

Re: Y'All Be Wary

anawim wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:01 am
VeryTas wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:12 pm Older English used to distinguish singular (thou) from plural (you).
I always thought that thee was singular and thou was plural.... :scratch:
No, thou is the subject and thee the object. The difference between the two is like that between I and me or he and him.
by peregrinator
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:30 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule
Replies: 11
Views: 4050

Re: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule

I really don't think John Paul II had to name 44 Cardinals in the 2001 consistory (Kasper was one of these, as were Lehmann, Bergoglio, McCarrick, and Rodriguez Maradiaga). In fact, he announced an initial 37 (one of whom was Kasper) and then made a separate announcement with seven more (one of whom...
by peregrinator
Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:03 pm
Forum: The Pub
Topic: King Charles to become first British monarch to pray publicly with Pope in 500 years
Replies: 13
Views: 169

Re: King Charles to become first British monarch to pray publicly with Pope in 500 years

One can rightly ask whether such symbolic gestures actually further the cause of reunion.
by peregrinator
Mon Oct 20, 2025 2:27 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Leo XIV publishes first major document of pontificate: Dilexi te
Replies: 10
Views: 292

Re: Leo XIV publishes first major document of pontificate: Dilexi te

It's interesting that there are many references to Pope Francis and the bulk of them are in two sections whose style is redolent of the late Pontiff. It is not unusual for a new Pope to begin his reign by deliberately evoking his predecessor. Thankfully, the days when Popes publicly hated each othe...
by peregrinator
Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:57 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Leo XIV publishes first major document of pontificate: Dilexi te
Replies: 10
Views: 292

Re: Leo XIV publishes first major document of pontificate: Dilexi te

It's interesting that there are many references to Pope Francis and the bulk of them are in two sections whose style is redolent of the late Pontiff.
by peregrinator
Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:54 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule
Replies: 11
Views: 4050

Re: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule

Kasper should never have been made a Cardinal
by peregrinator
Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:18 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule
Replies: 11
Views: 4050

Re: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule

But they are still eligible (in theory)
by peregrinator
Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:58 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Riverboat wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:13 pm
peregrinator wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:25 am soixante-huitards
Now, there's a term I need to work into my conversation. All I gotta do is learn how to pronounce it.
swa-SONT hwee-TARR (more or less)
by peregrinator
Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:25 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Peetem wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 9:34 pm Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

The 1960's and 70's.
I mean yes, but that raises the question of why we're so wedded to the liturgical practice and music of the 60s and 70s. Why are the Church authorities all soixante-huitards?
by peregrinator
Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:06 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

The thing is, the changes were being introduced gradually but there were many people who still disliked them even so. And yet their voices were not being heard - instead, everyone was told what a rousing success the liturgical "reform" was, and how it was being embraced by the laity.
by peregrinator
Tue Oct 07, 2025 5:47 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Some interesting anecdotes (if not data) about how the laity felt about the liturgical "reforms" of 1958 and onward:

https://handmissalhistory.com/newmass1964part2/

Personally I had no idea that people hated the liturgical commentator introduced by Pius XII. So I learned something there!
by peregrinator
Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:08 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Having lived through that era, I can tell you it was a both/and. The change came from the top, but the reception from the bottom was a combination of welcome and oblivious. Some liked the change, and the rest were just accepting, because that's what we as Catholics did. We saw the church as knowing...
by peregrinator
Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:05 am
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Some of the older folk in my parish (now around 80) were very happy with the end of the latin mass. Their hostility still makes me jump as they say that they hated the mumbo jumbo latin that they did not understand. With that attitude they are the people who like all the corny songs, hugs and kisse...
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:03 pm
Forum: The Pub
Topic: New Swiss Guard uniforms
Replies: 3
Views: 265

Re: New Swiss Guard uniforms

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/266947/swiss-guards-protectors-of-the-pope-don-new-uniforms These are not replacing the striped dress uniforms but the solid red and blue uniforms that are worn behind the scenes. Actually, my understanding is that these uniforms will replace the lack of unif...
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:03 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Paul VI Hall is the ugliest building in Rome, but he isn't responsible for the decline in liturgical music, which was already well underway under Pius XII. It's true that Pius XII was also a liturgical vandal. But 90% of what happened had nothing to do with anything Pius XII or any other Pope did. ...
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:55 pm
Forum: The Pub
Topic: New Swiss Guard uniforms
Replies: 3
Views: 265

Re: New Swiss Guard uniforms

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/266947/swiss-guards-protectors-of-the-pope-don-new-uniforms These are not replacing the striped dress uniforms but the solid red and blue uniforms that are worn behind the scenes. Actually, my understanding is that these uniforms will replace the lack of unif...
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:54 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Paul VI: It is here that the greatest newness is going to be noticed, the newness of language. No longer Latin, but the spoken language will be the principal language of the Mass. The introduction of the vernacular will certainly be a great sacrifice for those who know the beauty, the power and the ...
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:43 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Doom wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:33 pm
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:26 pm Pope St. Paul VI had terrible taste in art.
Paul VI Hall is the ugliest building in Rome, but he isn't responsible for the decline in liturgical music, which was already well underway under Pius XII.
It's true that Pius XII was also a liturgical vandal.
by peregrinator
Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:42 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?
Replies: 59
Views: 12997

Re: Why is contemporary liturgical music so terrible?

Perhaps if it had not been for Pope Paul VI, GIA would still be the Gregorian Institute of America For one ignorant, please explain. The way I interpret it, he is blaming the Novus Ordo for all the banality and bad music that has plagued us in the last 50 years. I'm not blaming the novus ordo, I'm ...
by peregrinator
Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:10 pm
Forum: Catholicism 101
Topic: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule
Replies: 11
Views: 4050

Re: The Wisdom of the over 80 rule

aussie_aussie_oi_oi wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:55 pm The Catholic Church has 118 Cardinals over 80 and that includes 28 in their 90s and 1 age 100.
Part of that is due to the practice of giving the red hat to 80+ clerics as an honorific though. If over 80s could vote then that wouldn't happen.