What next in the Russia-Ukraine War?

[JanetM]

What do you see in store for Ukraine going forward? Another coup to distract Russia? Further involvement from the West? Invasion of Poland next? World War III? Russia wins and the world spins on as usual?

What are your thoughts on this? How does it end?

[aussie_aussie_oi_oi]

No idea but not an invasion of Poland because they are in NATO as Russia/Belarus would be destroyed.

[JanetM]

It's not unlikely, in my opinion, that Russia will win this one. Alternatively, we might end up with an East and West Ukraine situation.

True, I don't think an invasion of Poland is likely as that would lead to a much bigger war than Russia is up for.

It's interesting, though, how Zelensky keeps egging the West to get more actively involved in the war. I almost think he would be ready for WW3 just to get Russia out of Ukraine.

[mia.s]

I'm not well-versed in geo-politics, but in general was it a bad decision on the US's part to get involved the way we have?

I understand that Russia's a threat, on many levels, but our government has invested a LOT of money.

[JanetM]

I understand that Russia's a threat, on many levels, but our government has invested a LOT of money.

I think it's a curious thought that probably Russia gains a fair amount of new tech and weaponry from the US via the war in Ukraine.

[blueyedmule]

I don't trust any western media even more than I don't trust eastern media to accurately represent what's actually happening in that conflict. It feels like a huge mind-job.

I think we're getting played by our own govt yet again. Rinse and repeat.

[Vern Humphrey]

As a professional soldier, I've spent my whole adult life preparing to fight Russia.

Russia's performance in this war is abysmal -- consider the "40-mile long column" that invaded the Ukraine. This was a clear violation of standard Soviet tactical doctrine and a blunder of the first order. But it was only one of many blunders.

If I have to predict:

1. Russia will be completely driven out of the Ukraine.
2. There is a 50-50 chance the Ukraine will recover the Crimea.
3. The Ukraine will join NATO and thereafter be immune to Russian bullying.
4. Russia will NOT invade Poland (something they publicly stated they intended to do when THIS war is over.)

[Riverboat]

I hope you're right.

And welcome back, by the way.

[Vern Humphrey]

I hope you're right.

And welcome back, by the way.

Glad to be back.

[Vadim]

I'm not well-versed in geo-politics, but in general was it a bad decision on the US's part to get involved the way we have?

Yes. Russia is acting in the same way with respect to Ukraine as did NATO with respect to Kosovo. For this reason, NATO does not have right to judge Russia or to give weapons to Ukraine.

Putin referred to the Kosovo precedent during his meeting with UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres in April 2022, and during his address in 2014 (the latter is older, but contains additional quotations).

I think that countries which recognized the independence of Kosovo (for instance, USA) and now do not recognize independence of DPR and LPR, which was proclaimed in a very similar situation, as Putin points out,

— do not have right to judge Russia, because they committed very similar things, or maybe even much worse, with respect to Kosovo,

— regardless of whether Russia is guilty or not, these countries, I think, should be judged themselves because they are sending weapons to Ukraine and by doing so, are fueling war into which they have no right to interfere, as I said previously.

[Vern Humphrey]

Yes. Russia is acting in the same way with respect to Ukraine as did NATO with respect to Kosovo. For this reason, NATO does not have right to judge Russia or to give weapons to Ukraine.

Let me get this right -- because Nato recognized the independence of Kosovo, we do NOT have the right to recognize the independence of the Ukraine?

[Vadim]

Yes. Russia is acting in the same way with respect to Ukraine as did NATO with respect to Kosovo. For this reason, NATO does not have right to judge Russia or to give weapons to Ukraine.

Let me get this right -- because Nato recognized the independence of Kosovo, we do NOT have the right to recognize the independence of the Ukraine?

Was NATO right when it recognized the independence of Kosovo?

[Vern Humphrey]

Yes. Russia is acting in the same way with respect to Ukraine as did NATO with respect to Kosovo. For this reason, NATO does not have right to judge Russia or to give weapons to Ukraine.

Was NATO right when it recognized the independence of Kosovo?

Was France right when they recognized the independence of the United States?

[aussie_aussie_oi_oi]

1 Wednesday Aug 23 - Ukraine destroys a S-400 surface-to-air missile system in Olenivka
2 Monday Sept 11 - Ukraine says it has recaptured strategic gas and oil rigs in the Black Sea
3 Wednesday Sept 13 - A Russian submarine and warship are damaged in missile attack on the Sevastopol
4 Thursday Sept 14 - Russian S-400 ‘Triumf’ surface-to-air missile system reportedly destroyed in Ukrainian ‘special operation’
5 Friday Sept 22 - Russia's Black Sea Navy fleet headquarters was hit by a Ukrainian missile in broad daylight

[aussie_aussie_oi_oi]

After more than a year of pleading with the Biden Administration, it seems that Zelensky has got his wish. The United States looks set to finally send MGM-140 ATACMS missiles to Ukraine.
The American missile would be the third long-range strike weapon Ukraine will receive from the West, following deliveries of Storm Shadow cruise missiles from Britain and France earlier this year.
While the British Storm Shadow has proved highly effective, the ATACMS – or “Army Tactical Missile System” – is on another level. Equipped with a 500-pound warhead, it is blazingly fast; while the Storm Shadow and Scalp-EG take 15 minutes to cover a distance of 190 miles, an ATACMS missile will cover the same ground in just five minutes (3,700 k per hour or mach 3).
Better still, it’s ground launched. While the Storm Shadow requires fighter jets for delivery, the ATACMS utilises the M-142 Himars rocket artillery launcher, which is already in service in Ukraine. This combination of high speed and easy delivery means that ATACMS is better able to engage time-sensitive targets, including mobile missile launchers and high-ranking military officials on frontline visits.
The only snag is how far Washington is willing to go. It isn’t clear how many systems the US is prepared to hand over, and according to reports Biden has indicated that only “a small number” will be provided to start with.

[BobCatholic]

US and other world politicians will funnel more money to Z.
Z will give his "10% to the big guy" in various countries and funnel the rest to himself and his cronies.
Lather, rinse, repeat.