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Then, raising his hand, Moses struck the rock twice with his staff, and water gushed out in abundance for the people and their livestock to drink.
But the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you were not faithful to me in showing forth my sanctity before the children of Israel,
you shall not lead this community into the land I will give them.”

The explanation for not entering the promised land that I had heard:

This was because the rock symbolized Christ (cf. 1 Cor. 10:4) who was stuck (died) only once on the the cross. After that, we just 'speak' to the "Rock" to get the benefit of that once-for-all sacrifice.

My question is, 'what is the source for that'? ECF? Someone else?

God told Moses to speak to the rock to make water come from it, but in his anger, he hit the rock with his staff, twice. And on top of that, when the Israelites asked where the water came from, Moses took credit for the miracle. That was Moses' sin, which kept him out of the Promised Land, not only did he disobey, but he took credit that wasn't deserved.

Doom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 8:05 am God told Moses to speak to the rock to make water come from it, but in his anger, he hit the rock with his staff, twice. And on top of that, when the Israelites asked where the water came from, Moses took credit for the miracle. That was Moses' sin, which kept him out of the Promised Land, not only did he disobey, but he took credit that wasn't deserved.

So is there a source for that? I heard it from Dr. Scott Hahn, but since he's famous for not providing sources, I wondered where it comes from.

Source for what? That Moses' sinned by not talking to the rock like God asked, but striking it instead? That is what it says in Deuteronomy.

The Lord never told him to strike the rock at all, much less twice.

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:01 pm The Lord never told him to strike the rock at all, much less twice.

Yes, I know but my question relates to the idea that striking the rock twice symbolized that Jesus only had to die once, not twice. I'm just wondering where that originated.

anawim wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:12 pm

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:01 pm The Lord never told him to strike the rock at all, much less twice.

Yes, I know but my question relates to the idea that striking the rock twice symbolized that Jesus only had to die once, not twice. I'm just wondering where that originated.

Probably from your priest's imagination, it is not only quite far from a traditional view, I think it is probably comopletely novel.