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Now, this priest often speaks this way, skipping some words. Eg during Mass "may it cause great hope in the resurrection of the dead" is pronounced "may it cause dead hope", and so on.

Once "for Pope Francis, head (thalavan) of the universal church" was almost pronounced "for Pope Francis, frog (thavala) of the universal church".

Correct form of absolution: "By the grace of the Lord who sanctifies repentant sinners, your sins are forgiven".
What was said to me, "That which sanctifies sinners. Go in peace"

So. Is my absolution valid?

I don't think so.

Jack3 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:46 am So. Is my absolution valid?

No mention of sins forgiven or absolved?

Mispronunciation is one thing, leaving out words - especially where those words are essential to the form - is quite another.

^ This. The words he spoke did not indicate what he was doing.

If this should happen again in confession I would encourage you to correct the priest (gently). I know this is hard! But one time this happened to me: the priest used a non-standard formula of absolution, doubtfully valid ("I forgive you your sins"), and I asked him to please say "I absolve you". He actually thanked me for correcting him and said I did the right thing - I think what had happened was that he had used this other formula for so long that he didn't even realize he was doing it any more. And when I had this same priest in the future he used the right form.

If the priest doesn't accept correction then I think you have to put it in the hands of his superior.

peregrinator wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:12 am Mispronunciation is one thing, leaving out words - especially where those words are essential to the form - is quite another.

It's not so much of intentionally changing the form, but of leaving out words while saying it so fast.

Intentionality doesn't matter. He didn't say what he was doing, no matter what the reason, so he couldn't effect the sacrament.

Thank you