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The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:18 pm
by DominiCanis
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Re: The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:33 am
by Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Re: The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:57 am
by Doom
"Real Presence" is much too vague a term, it could mean pretty much anything, from Transubstantion to Calvin's "Spiritual Presence" and everything in between. There are probably memorialists who use the term to mean, "The Eucharist is a symbol and absolutely nothing more". Naturally, the term arose in Anglicanism, a tradition in which vague terms that could be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean; it is one of the key hallmarks of theology.
Re: The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:40 pm
by Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Re: The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:44 pm
by aussie_aussie_oi_oi
I am happy with the explanation in the Catechism:
1374 The mode of Christ's presence under the Eucharistic species is unique. It raises the Eucharist above all the sacraments as "the perfection of the spiritual life and the end to which all the sacraments tend."199 In the most blessed sacrament of the Eucharist "the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained."200 "This presence is called 'real' - by which is not intended to exclude the other types of presence as if they could not be 'real' too, but because it is presence in the fullest sense: that is to say, it is a substantial presence by which Christ, God and man, makes himself wholly and entirely present."201
Re: The Real Presence and Particles
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:13 pm
by peregrinator