CORPUS Disbands Liberal Catholicism is Dying

[Doom]

CORPUS, the "Corps of Reserved Priests United For Service," was founded in 1974 to advocate for an end to priestly celibacy and women's ordination. It was a group of priests who left the priesthood to get married and who were advocating to return to service.

It has now been forced to permanently disband due to an aging membership (most members were ordained before Vatican II and are in their 80s and 90s) and an inability to recruit younger members.

The greatest enemy of Liberal Catholicism is not any Pope or theologian, their greatest enemy is the actuarial tables.

[zeno]

This is good news and I pray you are right!

[Doom]

Have you heard of the Shakers? They were a bizarre religious sect from the late 18th-early 19th centuries that practiced complete abstinence and that human reproduction was a sin.

As you can imagine, with no children to pass their teachings on to, the sect depended entirely on new converts to keep going, and when converts dried up, the Shakers gradually disappeared. There are still Shaker groups around today, with an aging membership of a few hundred that draws few recruits. One community has a total of 2 members, both in their 90s.

Liberal Catholicism is a sterile philosophy like Shakerism; they do have children, though not as many as traditionalist Catholics, yet they are unable to pass their views on to those children, most of whom see no point in continuing to go through the motions pretending to follow a religion you don't believe in and just grow up to be completely secular, which is the logical end of the Liberal Catholic program.

[zeno]

This is true of American liberals in general which is why they have hijacked public school systems - to indoctrinate other people's children since they have so few of their own.

[Doom]

But since the pandemic, parents caught on to what was really going on in schools and there has been unprecedented pushback, so the days of liberal indoctrination in schools are numbered

[zeno]

I hope you're right here as well!

[anawim]

I was actually kind of shocked to realize how little parents knew.
My parents were on top of us all the time: what homework we had to do, what textbooks we were using, what research reports that we were assigned, and what we got on our tests. We had to bring everything home.

[Doom]

I was actually kind of shocked to realize how little parents knew.
My parents were on top of us all the time: what homework we had to do, what textbooks we were using, what research reports that we were assigned, and what we got on our tests. We had to bring everything home.

Kids are actually told not to tell their parents what they did in school.

[Highlander]

I was actually kind of shocked to realize how little parents knew. ...

Or want to know. And who are irritated when told how their little one is doing ... or not.

DW, a former middle school teacher, and I were discussing this just yesterday. We agree that, were we educating our children today, we would put them in a parochial elementary school (thoroughly vetted -- as not all Catholic schools are Catholic) and the home school them for high school. Because we would care about them.

[Riverboat]

The greatest enemy of Liberal Catholicism is not any Pope or theologian, their greatest enemy is the actuarial tables.

Can "Catholics for Choice" be far behind?

[zeno]

From your lips to God's ear.

[Doom]

The greatest enemy of Liberal Catholicism is not any Pope or theologian, their greatest enemy is the actuarial tables.

Can "Catholics for Choice" be far behind?

Catholics for Choice is not an actual organization, and neither are many of the other left-wing organizations that the media love to cite. Catholics for Choice is Frances Kissling, a couple of staff members, and a fax machine which they use to send press releases to the media, and little else.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Fax. How quaint.

[Doom]

Fax. How quaint.

It is still widely used; I send several faxes every month when sending important documents, such as medical records. Legal or financial records need to be addressed immediately within the next few minutes; there is still no other means of communication that is faster or more efficient.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Scan and email.

[Doom]

Scan and email.

And you need both a scanner and a printer, which somehow both magically work (two pieces of technology which almost never work), and instead of getting it over and done in 10 minutes, it takes 45 minutes to an hour or longer. The last fax I sent was paperwork for my medical leave in April, the insurance company sent me paperwork by fax, I signed it and then faxed the signed copy to my doctor, who signed it and sent it back to me, then I sent the version with both signatures back to the insurance company, the entire process took barely 15 minutes. If it had been done by email it probably would have taken a couple of days.

[Irenaeus]

Have you heard of the Shakers? They were a bizarre religious sect from the late 18th-early 19th centuries that practiced complete abstinence and that human reproduction was a sin.

As you can imagine, with no children to pass their teachings on to, the sect depended entirely on new converts to keep going, and when converts dried up, the Shakers gradually disappeared. There are still Shaker groups around today, with an aging membership of a few hundred that draws few recruits. One community has a total of 2 members, both in their 90s.

Liberal Catholicism is a sterile philosophy like Shakerism; they do have children, though not as many as traditionalist Catholics, yet they are unable to pass their views on to those children, most of whom see no point in continuing to go through the motions pretending to follow a religion you don't believe in and just grow up to be completely secular, which is the logical end of the Liberal Catholic program.

The Shakers (United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing) are also noted for their furniture: Shaker Furniture 101

[Jack3]

This is true of American liberals in general which is why they have hijacked public school systems - to indoctrinate other people's children since they have so few of their own.

Ironically, since the lockdown (where people spent too much time online), the influence of Western-style liberalism has been increasing in my state.

[Doom]

This is true of American liberals in general which is why they have hijacked public school systems - to indoctrinate other people's children since they have so few of their own.

Ironically, since the lockdown (where people spent too much time online), the influence of Western-style liberalism has been increasing in my state.

It has been there for a long time. Nehru was very much a Western-style leftist, which is why the West adored him. But I think the current widespread popularity of Hindu nationalism pushes very much against it.

[Doom]

This is true of American liberals in general which is why they have hijacked public school systems - to indoctrinate other people's children since they have so few of their own.

Ironically, since the lockdown (where people spent too much time online), the influence of Western-style liberalism has been increasing in my state.

It has been there for a long time. Nehru was very much a Western-style leftist, which is why the West adored him. But I think the current widespread popularity of Hindu nationalism pushes very much against it.