Opening Ceremony of Paris Olympics Mocks The Last Supper

[Doom]

Whatever the situation in France, I find it hard to believe the International Olympic Committee wasn't at all involved, at least in approving the final plans. Yet of the probably hundreds or thousands of people involved in planning this, it seems not one thought that any of it might be seen as problematic.

[peregrinator]

I mean we are talking about a country which, when the Cathedral of Notre Dame was burned down, the majority of the population wanted to completely de-Christianize it and rebuild it as a monument to secularism and it was actually a controversial decision to make it a cathedral again.

Where can I read more about this? It sounds like the exact opposite of what happened.

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Rebuilding it was always the plan but the counter proposal was to “renovate” it and turn it into a 21st modernist building which could be turned into a museum or something similar. The least popular option was to rebuild it exactly as it was and reconsecrate it as a cathedral, that was an executive decision by Macron personally, a different president might have chosen a different option. Of course, the big question is why it is even the government’s business at all, but the Catholic Church in France is basically a department of state, which is 90% of the reason that atheism is so popular. Every nation in Europe that has an official state church the majority of the population are atheists, it is not a coincidence.

[peregrinator]

Rebuilding it was always the plan but the counter proposal was to “renovate” it and turn it into a 21st modernist building which could be turned into a museum or something similar. The least popular option was to rebuild it exactly as it was and reconsecrate it as a cathedral, that was an executive decision by Macron personally, a different president might have chosen a different option. Of course, the big question is why it is even the government’s business at all, but the Catholic Church in France is basically a department of state, which is 90% of the reason that atheism is so popular. Every nation in Europe that has an official state church the majority of the population are atheists, it is not a coincidence.

The least popular opinion among the people of France? Gonna need a cite for this.

Anyway, the Catholic Church in France isn't a department of State, officially or unofficially, but the State does claim ownership of Church buildings - and that is why it's the government's business. Cynically, they know that Notre Dame de Paris is a huge tourist draw and a secularized museum would not be nearly as popular.

[Kage_ar]

I'm not disputing that they're taking down video; they just can't hide *all* the evidence.

My point is that the IOC is clearly on the defensive and the attempt to scrub the video from the Internet is an attempt to silence criticism as well as an implicit expression of shame about what they have done.

It is 1:10 PM CDT on Monday, I am watching the opening ceremony on Peacock right now.

[Doom]

I'm not disputing that they're taking down video; they just can't hide *all* the evidence.

My point is that the IOC is clearly on the defensive and the attempt to scrub the video from the Internet is an attempt to silence criticism as well as an implicit expression of shame about what they have done.

It is 1:10 PM CDT on Monday, I am watching the opening ceremony on Peacock right now.

And Peacock doesn't allow people to make comments on the videos does it? Kinda confirms my point about them wanting to silence criticism, doesn't it? It is only available in places where people don't have the option to comment, the comments on the IOC YouTube channel were overwhelmingly negativwe.

Let's be clear, that it was intended to be blasphemous has been confirmed by the organizers, the morbidly obese "woman" who played Jesus posted on Twitter that It was about presenting "The New Gay Testament"

[gherkin]

In other news....https://www.catholicworldreport.com/202 ... ynodality/

[anawim]

In other news....https://www.catholicworldreport.com/202 ... ynodality/

Too bad that I didn't know that there was a poll. Wonder how many more actually voted before they took it down.

[Doom]

In other news....https://www.catholicworldreport.com/202 ... ynodality/

Okay but online polls are inherently useless and meaningless, it is a self-selecting poll, meaning that only those with very strong opinions will bother to participate, and there is not necessarily anything that can prevent people from voting multiple times.

I do not doubt that among so-called "conservative" or orthodox or traditional Catholics the Synod on Synodality, and pretty much anything said or done by Pope Francis on any issue whatever, are very unpopular, but there is nothing scientific about this kind of poll.

This is similar to when a controversial movie or TV show appears on IMDB, before anyone has even seen it, there will suddenly be thousands of angry reviews. It is not unusual to see a movie have 100,000 zero-star reviews on IMDB a month before its world premiere when no one has seen it but the editor and director.

This practice is called "review bombing", and polls like this are easily manipulated in the same way that movies are easily review bombed.

The Vatican was right to take the poll down, and will hopefully learn from the experience not to feed the trolls in the future.

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For the record, I'm not saying the Synod on Synodality is a good idea, I am saying that an easily "review bombed" poll that has been swamped as a result of a campaign by anti-Francis Catholics is not a scientific poll and tells us nothing about Catholic opinion on the subject.

[Kage_ar]

My point is that the IOC is clearly on the defensive and the attempt to scrub the video from the Internet is an attempt to silence criticism as well as an implicit expression of shame about what they have done.

It is 1:10 PM CDT on Monday, I am watching the opening ceremony on Peacock right now.

And Peacock doesn't allow people to make comments on the videos does it? Kinda confirms my point about them wanting to silence criticism, doesn't it? It is only available in places where people don't have the option to comment, the comments on the IOC YouTube channel were overwhelmingly negativwe.

However, the event has not been "scrubbed from the internet".

Peacock is an internet streaming service. I don't have my phone with me today to see if comments are allowed.

[Doom]

Did you know the official title was “Last Supper on the Seine?”


All these explanations about Dionysus and Greek Mythology is all refuted by that simple fact.

If they were just honest about it and said “We don’t really understand Christianity so we honestly didn’t realize many would find this offensive.” I could respect that and 90% of the controversy would have dissipated overnight.