Conclave (2024, film)

[Inthepews]

I saw this in a theatre as a movie premiere. Overall I enjoyed the movie but the ending was bad taste.

My opinion was 5-stars until seeing the ending then my opinion changed to 3.5 stars.

[Doom]

The problem is not so much that it is inaccurate but that it is biased in favor of "progressive" Catholicism, as the "progressive" Cardinals are portrayed as unreservedly heroic and virtuous, and those with different views are portrayed negatively.

and I think it exaggerates the degree of politicization, scheming, and lobbying that tends to happen during a conclave. I do not doubt that there are ambitious cardinals who very much want to be elected Pope, but I don't think it is common for them to have the level of skullduggery and deceit to achieve office the way all the cardinals in this film do.

[anawim]

I saw this in a theatre as a movie premiere. Overall I enjoyed the movie but the ending was bad taste.

My opinion was 5-stars until seeing the ending then my opinion changed to 3.5 stars.

Based on what I read, 3.5 stars would be generous.

[Doom]

I saw this in a theatre as a movie premiere. Overall I enjoyed the movie but the ending was bad taste.

My opinion was 5 stars until seeing the ending then my opinion changed to 3.5 stars.

Based on what I read, 3.5 stars would be generous.

Have you seen the movie? There is no question that it is a very well-made movie with excellent production values. It is also fairly accurate in both its depiction of the process of papal election itself and its appraisal of the various "parties" or "factions" within the Church, with the "progressive" faction plotting to prevent the election of someone from the "traditionalist" faction, I have absolutely no doubt that this kind of politicking does occur during a conclave.

[Inthepews]

Yes I watched the full movie. In honesty, when I watch a movie I can be lost and it requires watching it multiple times to really gain a clear understanding of what the story presents.

But my overall vibe was that Cabrini cratered to the woke and feminist crowd. I am not woke nor am I am feminist and I never for one second accepted mass illegal immigration (despite my cardinal was continually cheering the mass illegal immigration invasion on like it was some sort of quality desert that everyone must relish).

I found it sickening to be honest.

This film said these ^^^ 3 things are what is currently politically correct (=evil), and I disagree with it all and still have it 3.5 stars even though this film is a woke and I am not.

It rubbed me that way.

I was extraordinarily generous and “nice” about my appraisal of these woke film makers.

[Riverboat]

Based on what I read on other Catholic sites, I think your assessment overall is spot-on. Keep up the good work.

[Doom]

Yes I watched the full movie. In honesty, when I watch a movie I can be lost and it requires watching it multiple times to really gain a clear understanding of what the story presents.

This tends to be true of all movies based on a book; there are lots of characters who are barely introduced and a complex story that is condensed and simplified to the extent that all the essential points are missed. This is why I almost always dislike a movie based on a book that I have read.

[Inthepews]

Based on what I read on other Catholic sites, I think your assessment overall is spot-on. Keep up the good work.

Oh good, I figured nobody would notice this movie the way I did because I live in a big woke city. I think the people producing this film had an ethnocentric (tribal) agenda and their ethnocentric racial preferences made this otherwise potential award winning movie into a fail of sorts. They wanted to inject wokeness into it all in a way they must have thought they were fooling the audience.

They released the movie at the zenith of woke nonsense in a “sanctuary city” that was busting at the seams with migrant criminals and ramping up crime. The movie director must have thought the woke activist insanity pendulum would never swing back but it did? Like riding this wave of euphoria to witness Hundreds of Thousands of “migrants” entering the USA illegally every Month from Mexico, like hurray, finally La Raza has made Reconquistodora or whatever it is called.

I pretty much hated the Latino supremacy aspect and Cabrini was Italian, so it was confusing how they tried to conflate the two cultures and conflating the two eras. I could be wrong but the director was Mexican and Mexicans have zero regard for immigration and labor laws in the USA. It is just take, take, and steal whatever you can from stupid “gringos”. But then he showed up in NYC to premier the film.

Great flick otherwise. I would watch it again, only if it was for free.