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Anyone had treatments or positive results from this? My son has had no good help from conventional medicine for his spine hump. He is resisting my suggestion of chiropractor but I don't have any experience or knowledge of that treatment other than wildly differing opinions on the internet.
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I'm pretty sure we are not supposed to post medical advice.

Here is an interesting tidbit that is sure to get the comments going!

https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pont ... ge_en.html

Advertising connected with New Age covers a wide range of practices as acupuncture, biofeedback, chiropractic, kinesiology, homeopathy, iridology, massage and various kinds of “bodywork” (such as orgonomy, Feldenkrais, reflexology, Rolfing, polarity massage, therapeutic touch etc.), meditation and visualisation, nutritional therapies, psychic healing, various kinds of herbal medicine, healing by crystals, metals, music or colours, reincarnation therapies and, finally, twelve-step programmes and self-help groups.(25) The source of healing is said to be within ourselves, something we reach when we are in touch with our inner energy or cosmic energy.
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I don't believe in chiropractics, it is pseudomedicine without a shred of real evidence to support it. Note: anecdotal evidence is not evidence so the fact that everyone and his brother swears up and down that a chiropractor helped them does not constitute proof.
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I know a solidly Catholic chiropractor; it doesn't have to be New-Agey. Having no personal experience with it, I can't comment on its effectiveness.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:53 pm I know a solidly Catholic chiropractor; it doesn't have to be New-Agey. Having no personal experience with it, I can't comment on its effectiveness.
There is not only no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of chiropractic but there is not even evidence for the existence of the condition it allegedly treats.
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My Son-in-Law has a doctorate in Physical Therapy. His opinion of Chiropractics agrees exactly with what Doom expressed....I haven't had the heart to tell him that though.... 8-)
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Thankyou all for your feedback. I've referenced 'The Bearer of the Water of Life' document lots over the years so don't want to introduce anything New Age to my son but I've heard from some other good Catholics who have had success with a Chiropractor. It's a hard one.
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At least as far as the Catholic side of it goes (as opposed to the "does it work?" side), that would vary widely based on the practitioner.
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In general, spinal adjustments are not proven to be safe, there is some evidence that chiropractic can help reduce minor lower back pain, but for acute lower back pain, chiropractic makes it worse, and some have even died from it.
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Doom wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:05 pm In general, spinal adjustments are not proven to be safe, there is some evidence that chiropractic can help reduce minor lower back pain, but for acute lower back pain, chiropractic makes it worse, and some have even died from it.
Sure, some people have glowing testimonies. The placebo effect is real!

I would never in a million years let anyone who is not well educated on my specific type of dwarfism within a mile of my spine. "Adjusting" the spine is dangerous for anyone, and 10Xs more for me.

My advice, for "a spine hump" seek out a skilled neurologist, if it is at all possible at a Medical School University hospital. Those of us with deformities do not want to risk damage from less than the best
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I don’t just mean anecdotal evidence clinical evidence. But then what chiropractors do in such a case is little more than glorified massage. And you would probably be better off going to an actual trained and certified masseuse.
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Antidotal I know but.....

I've had two serious muscatel-skeletal problems (major pain) that were solved only by chiropractors. Now I don't agree with their belief that overall health can improve with regular adjustments. But my neck no longer hurts nor does my hip (injury from running). And both problems had been on-going for a couple of years.

My grandfather who was a brilliant surgeon and a true medical savant would send all of his patients, who had back problems, to a chiropractor first before treatment. He said for that they do, he's seen enough observations to say there's something to it.

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May find this article of interest, from the "largest website of chiropractic practice in the world" regarding how it's founder considered it a religion.

https://chiro.org/Plus/History/Persons/ ... -Chiro.pdf
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My view is that chiropractics, like pot, is way oversold on the benefits, assuming there are any.

As for that list of "alternative practices," one would be better off with a curandera.
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Riverboat wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:59 pm My view is that chiropractics, like pot, is way oversold on the benefits, assuming there are any.

As for that list of "alternative practices," one would be better off with a curandera.
Well, there is a precedent for the "medicinal use" of marijuana, in the "medicinal use" of alcohol which was allowed even under the strictest version of prohibition. It used to be possible to go to a doctor and get a prescription for whiskey. But while there are well-documented medicinal uses of alcohol (which is why Ny Quill and many cough syrups contain alcohol), most of those who got a prescription really only alcohol for recreational use. Similarly, most prescriptions for "medicinal marijuana" are really intended for purely recreational use.
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Quacks!
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Doom wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:40 pm
Riverboat wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:59 pm My view is that chiropractics, like pot, is way oversold on the benefits, assuming there are any.

As for that list of "alternative practices," one would be better off with a curandera.
Well, there is a precedent for the "medicinal use" of marijuana, in the "medicinal use" of alcohol which was allowed even under the strictest version of prohibition. It used to be possible to go to a doctor and get a prescription for whiskey. But while there are well-documented medicinal uses of alcohol (which is why Ny Quill and many cough syrups contain alcohol), most of those who got a prescription really only alcohol for recreational use. Similarly, most prescriptions for "medicinal marijuana" are really intended for purely recreational use.
Are you saying that it's a smokescreen for stoners to get baked?
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Probably the vast majority of the time. Just as there are doctors who will prescribe painkillers and other drugs to anyone who asks (as noted in famous songs like "Dr. Robert" by The Beatles and "Doctor Feelgood" by Motley Crue both of which are songs about real doctors that the bandmates used to go to to get easy access to illegal drugs) there are those who will give a prescription for marijuana to anyone who asks. For as long as there have been prescriptions there have been doctors willing to abuse that right for profit.
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I was being facetious, I know plenty of people doing just that with weed. Oh, and how 'bout the series "Painkiller!"
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ProZak wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:54 pm I was being facetious.
I had assumed so.
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