Trump a Convicted Felon

[Stella]

It's surprising to the non American sensibilities that a convicted felon qualifies as a presidential candidate in the first place. Anyone have insights or predictions on how it will impact Trumps chances on November 5th?

[jessica01]

I'm pretty sure we're just making it up as we go along. This is an unprecedented situation, and not something our Founding Fathers, the Constitution, or any of our laws really defined. Some people are extrapolating from the amendment regarding those who served in the Confederacy during the Civil War, or the clauses related to presidents who are impeached and removed from office, but it's not clear cut. Whatever happens will be a major defining point in American history. I haven't seen any solid explainers yet, just a lot of opinions and predictions.

[Doom]

It's surprising to the non American sensibilities that a convicted felon qualifies as a presidential candidate in the first place. Anyone have insights or predictions on how it will impact Trumps chances on November 5th?

The charges are bull**** and politically motivated, they are MISDEMEANORS, and the statute of limitations has expired, yet hardcore leftwing Democrat, George Soros funded prosecutor Alvin Bragg decided to raise them to the level of a FELONY based on a legal theory that no one understands and which he hasn't even attempted to defend.

Do you think it is appropriate for a prosecutor to arbitrarily decide that misdemeanors are felonies, and to prosecute after the statute of limitations has expired? If you do you are alone in that opinion, Bragg has been uniformly condemned by legal scholars regardless of political persuasion.


It is very likely that Bragg will be disbarred and possibly even prosecuted for his unethical behavior before this is all over. But he doesn't care, because this is all about interfering with the election.

Bragg won't prosecute murder or rape cases, and he was elected to the job on a campaign promise to "Put Trump in jail no matter what it takes".

Do you think it is appropriate, in an alleged democracy, for prosecutors to run for office on a promise to prosecute someone "no matter what it takes?" Do you think it is appropriate for prosecutors to decide whom to prosecute based on their personal, or political opinion of the defendant?

The judge in the case was incredibly biased in favor of the prosecution and gave unconstitutional and illegal instructions to the jury. Every legal scholar in the country, left, right, center found his instructions to the jury to be unethical and illegal.

Every witness for the prosecution was an admitted liar and one of them, Michael Cohen, has been convicted of multiple counts of perjury in the past and even confessed on the witness stand to having stolen money from Trump.

And the best the prosecution could do to defend him was to make the lame argument that "Cohen has lied to everyone else, but he's telling the truth now"

Tell me, if someone has lied to everyone you know, but then tells you "I lied to everyone else but I am telling the truth to you" do you find that convincing?



The latest poll taken on the issue showed that even the majority of DEMOCRATS agree with the statement that "Joe Biden is trying to put Trump in jail because he knows he can't win".

Biden, whom even 80% of Democrats don't want to run again, has decided that his strategy is to win the election by default by making sure his name is the only one on the ballot in November. Do you think that is an appropriate strategy for a politician in an alleged "democracy"?

[Stella]

It's surprising to the non American sensibilities that a convicted felon qualifies as a presidential candidate in the first place. Anyone have insights or predictions on how it will impact Trumps chances on November 5th?

The charges are bull**** and politically motivated, they are MISDEMEANORS, and the statute of limitations has expired, yet hardcore leftwing Democrat, George Soros funded prosecutor Alvin Bragg decided to raise them to the level of a FELONY based on a legal theory that no one understands and which he hasn't even attempted to defend.

Can you explain the right legal approach to the charge of paying a sex provider to be silent on what she provided, to ensure a presidential candidate wasn't questioned about the sex transaction?

[Essential Sacrifice]

Can you explain the right legal approach to the charge of paying a sex provider to be silent on what she provided, to ensure a presidential candidate wasn't questioned about the sex transaction?

The problem with your statement is your assumption they had a sexual relationship. Trump denies it, the prosecution never had any proof other than the word of the GLOAT, greatest liar of all time and even if he had her involvement has nothing to do with the charges leveled against him in a felony charge. (actually misdemeanor's whose time for potential prosecution ended in 2019)To think a man can be held accountable for suppressing a story that is untrue as a felony is ludicrous as it has been done hundreds of times by others per Pecker himself.

Robert Khuzami, Attorney for the United States, Acting Under Authority Conferred by 28 U.S.C. § 515, announced that MICHAEL COHEN was sentenced today to three years in prison for tax evasion, making false statements to a federally insured bank, and campaign finance violations.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/mi ... violations. read this entire article and ask yourself if he was a reliable witness...

He was railroaded Stella, by a Democratic Soros funded DA who ran for office stating he was going after Donald Trump to get elected, a Democratic far left leaning judge whose conduct will come under extreme scrutiny upon appeal and 12 jurors who come from an area whose sum and total citizenry is 85.6% democratic voting for Biden.

A Kangaroo court (you should be familiar with that term ) if ever there was one.

[anawim]

It's not necessarily illegal to pay someone to keep quiet.

From an article by a lawyer on Slate:

In fact, it’s legally OK in a pretty broad swath of situations. It’s legally OK if the information being kept confidential is not about a crime, or if keeping it confidential, doesn’t otherwise violate the law.

If the payment itself is illegal (such as using campaign donations), or if having sex was illegal, then there might have been a case.

This was a miscarriage of justice, and I think may actually increase his chance of winning (I hope).

[Doom]

The judge donated money to the Biden campaign in 2020, and his daughter is a paid Democrat activist who was paid $9.7 million for work on the Biden/Harris campaign in 2020.

So tell me, do you think it is legitimate for a judge who has donated to one presidential campaign, to preside over the trial of that candidate's opponent?

[anawim]

The judge donated money to the Biden campaign in 2020, and his daughter is a paid Democrat activist who was paid $9.7 million for work on the Biden/Harris campaign in 2020.

4 of the jurors voted for Trump, but the other 8 all voted for Biden.

They were instructed that they did not have to arrive at a unanimous decision.

[Kage_ar]

Is it simply beyond imagination today to think a professional could do their job based on, well, the law, and it have nothing to do with politics? We don't look up voting records to make sure no Republican sits on a jury deciding the trial of a registered Democrat, do we?

Another question for the supporters of Mr Trump, a quick fact check: In his statement today Mr Trump said that kids cannot play little league baseball because immigrants have set up tents. Could anyone link me to this in the news? Google literally turned up one story that was even close:

https://www.westsidecurrent.com/westsid ... 6f8cf.html

[anawim]

Mayor Adams has proposed using sports fields on Randall's Island, but I'm not aware that it's gone through city council yet.

[Doom]

It's not necessarily illegal to pay someone to keep quiet.

From an article by a lawyer on Slate:

In fact, it’s legally OK in a pretty broad swath of situations. It’s legally OK if the information being kept confidential is not about a crime, or if keeping it confidential, doesn’t otherwise violate the law.

If the payment itself is illegal (such as using campaign donations), or if having sex was illegal, then there might have been a case.

This was a miscarriage of justice, and I think may actually increase his chance of winning (I hope).

There is absolutely no question the appeal will be successful. This wasn't a real attempt at a prosecution or it would not have been so inept. The purpose of this was to influence the election by labeling Trump a “convicted felon” in the hopes that people who haven't been paying attention wil be persuaded by it. They did this with full knowledge that it will be reversed but they are gambling that won't be until after the election.

What they didn't count on however is that EVERYONE is watching and virtually no one except for the most. hardcore anti-Trunpers would take it seriously. This is already backfiring big time. The trial and verdict have been uniformly denounced, and I have noticed literally HUNDREDS of people on Twitter saying something like “I always hated Trump buy after this I am definitely voting for him this year”, or even “I'm a Democrat and I won't be voting for Trump, but I am going to donate to his campaign”.

This conviction, which even Democrats think was politically motivated, probably won Trump the election. It is surely no coincidence that in New York, the center of the legal circus, a state no Republican has won since Reagan in 1984, Biden has a flimsy one point lead.

[peregrinator]

Is it simply beyond imagination today to think a professional could do their job based on, well, the law, and it have nothing to do with politics? We don't look up voting records to make sure no Republican sits on a jury deciding the trial of a registered Democrat, do we?

Who is the professional in this scenario? Jurors aren't professionals.

Another question for the supporters of Mr Trump, a quick fact check: In his statement today Mr Trump said that kids cannot play little league baseball because immigrants have set up tents. Could anyone link me to this in the news? Google literally turned up one story that was even close:

OK, but that has nothing at all to do with this trial.

[peregrinator]

I'm pretty sure we're just making it up as we go along. This is an unprecedented situation

It's not unprecedented - in 1920, Eugene Debs won almost a million votes for President while in prison for sedition.

[Doom]

In a press conference today, Biden was asked the question "Trump calls himself a political prisoner, and he blames you for it, what is your response?"

Biden said nothing, but a big, broad smile crossed his face, and then he walked away.

This is incredibly disturbing behavior, by doing this, Biden basically admitted that he is responsible.

[Kage_ar]

Is it simply beyond imagination today to think a professional could do their job based on, well, the law, and it have nothing to do with politics? We don't look up voting records to make sure no Republican sits on a jury deciding the trial of a registered Democrat, do we?

Who is the professional in this scenario? Jurors aren't professionals.

Professional attorneys, judges, etc.

[Kage_ar]

In a press conference today, Biden was asked the question "Trump calls himself a political prisoner, and he blames you for it, what is your response?"

Biden said nothing, but a big, broad smile crossed his face, and then he walked away.

This is incredibly disturbing behavior, by doing this, Biden basically admitted that he is responsible.

I cannot get it straight... Is President Biden an imbecele who is so demented he cannot be President, or is he a political/legal mastermind who wields power over a vast army of minions?

[peregrinator]

One can easily see a man suffering from dementia believing himself to be responsible for the downfall of his political enemies.

[anawim]

I cannot get it straight... Is President Biden an imbecele who is so demented he cannot be President, or is he a political/legal mastermind who wields power over a vast army of minions?

Well if he has, or is, a sock puppet, it could be both.

[jessica01]

I'm pretty sure we're just making it up as we go along. This is an unprecedented situation

It's not unprecedented - in 1920, Eugene Debs won almost a million votes for President while in prison for sedition.

Interesting! Not as unprecedented as I thought. Politics in America have always been very colorful!

[BobCatholic]

I cannot get it straight... Is President Biden an imbecele who is so demented he cannot be President, or is he a political/legal mastermind who wields power over a vast army of minions?

I'm thinking he's a puppet, who does the bidding of his owners (cronies)